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GE clothes dryer not hot
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DaveC
2005-08-15 06:32:15 UTC
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This GE dryer (USA 240v model) has 4 heat settings: Hi, Medium, Low, Fluff
(no heat). It also has a moisture-monitoring setting ("More Dry" and "Less
Dry").

I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.

There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.

The filter screen is clean and the airflow out of the vent hose (I
disconnected it and checked the flow) is unchanged from a year ago (the last
time I remember checking it out). Mains voltage verified. No overheating
external connections.

How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in only
medium heat?

Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.

GE model DBXR453ET3WW

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2005-08-15 07:05:14 UTC
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Post by DaveC
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of
2 different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element;
Medium = 1500w element; High = both elements.
This may be right. Another way it can be done is with two equal wattage
elements. Low = one element across 120 V, medium = one element across
240 V, high = both elements across 240 V. More common in electric ranges
that have off-1-2-3-4 pushbuttons instead of "infinite" heat controls,
but possible in a dryer.
Post by DaveC
How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in only
medium heat?
Using your assumption, "low" element open, or faulty temperature switch.
Post by DaveC
Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.
Open it up. :) Most GE washers and dryers will have a schematic folded
up and taped somewhere inside the control panel. If you can read this
and drive a DVM, you can make some tests of the switches and the elements
at the control panel wiring, before having to pull the drum out to get at
the elements. Unplug the dryer first and watch out for sharp edges of
sheet metal inside it.

Matt Roberds
Joseph Meehan
2005-08-15 11:38:45 UTC
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Post by DaveC
This GE dryer (USA 240v model) has 4 heat settings: Hi, Medium, Low,
Fluff (no heat). It also has a moisture-monitoring setting ("More
Dry" and "Less Dry").
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use
of 2 different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w
element; Medium = 1500w element; High = both elements.
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat
switch result in the same medium heat.
The filter screen is clean and the airflow out of the vent hose (I
disconnected it and checked the flow) is unchanged from a year ago
(the last time I remember checking it out). Mains voltage verified.
No overheating external connections.
How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in
only medium heat?
Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.
GE model DBXR453ET3WW
Thanks,
Consider that your dryer is not just 240V it is 120-240V any element
can be running at 120V or 240V or 0V at any one time. It might also cycle,
but I don't think any do that to control the temp.
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James Sweet
2005-08-16 04:12:27 UTC
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Post by Joseph Meehan
Post by DaveC
This GE dryer (USA 240v model) has 4 heat settings: Hi, Medium, Low,
Fluff (no heat). It also has a moisture-monitoring setting ("More
Dry" and "Less Dry").
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use
of 2 different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w
element; Medium = 1500w element; High = both elements.
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat
switch result in the same medium heat.
The filter screen is clean and the airflow out of the vent hose (I
disconnected it and checked the flow) is unchanged from a year ago
(the last time I remember checking it out). Mains voltage verified.
No overheating external connections.
How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in
only medium heat?
Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.
GE model DBXR453ET3WW
Thanks,
Consider that your dryer is not just 240V it is 120-240V any element
can be running at 120V or 240V or 0V at any one time. It might also cycle,
but I don't think any do that to control the temp.
Dryer elements that I've seen have all been 240v, I also had a Kenmore dryer
that had separate button thermostats which cycled the element depending on
the temperature setting, I figured most dryers did it this way.

If you have two elements and are only getting medium then the low element is
not working, either it's burned out, the overtemp thermostat is tripped or
defective, or the switch is bad.
Appliance Repair Aid
2005-08-15 11:42:51 UTC
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Post by DaveC
This GE dryer (USA 240v model) has 4 heat settings: Hi, Medium, Low, Fluff
(no heat). It also has a moisture-monitoring setting ("More Dry" and "Less
Dry").
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.
The filter screen is clean and the airflow out of the vent hose (I
disconnected it and checked the flow) is unchanged from a year ago (the last
time I remember checking it out). Mains voltage verified. No overheating
external connections.
How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in only
medium heat?
Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.
GE model DBXR453ET3WW
Thanks,
Hi,
Post by DaveC
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.
Close, 2 of the same wattage elements and usually a couple of different
thermostats.
Post by DaveC
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.
One of the two elements broken, element grounded are a couple of
possible trouble makers.

Some take apart helps....
http://www.applianceaid.com/take-apart.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/ge-dryers.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/grounded.html

jeff.
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Steve Henderson
2005-08-17 01:58:04 UTC
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Post by Appliance Repair Aid
Post by DaveC
This GE dryer (USA 240v model) has 4 heat settings: Hi, Medium, Low, Fluff
(no heat). It also has a moisture-monitoring setting ("More Dry" and "Less
Dry").
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.
The filter screen is clean and the airflow out of the vent hose (I
disconnected it and checked the flow) is unchanged from a year ago (the last
time I remember checking it out). Mains voltage verified. No overheating
external connections.
How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in only
medium heat?
Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.
GE model DBXR453ET3WW
Thanks,
Hi,
Post by DaveC
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.
Close, 2 of the same wattage elements and usually a couple of different
thermostats.
Post by DaveC
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.
One of the two elements broken, element grounded are a couple of
possible trouble makers.
Some take apart helps....
http://www.applianceaid.com/take-apart.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/ge-dryers.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/grounded.html
jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
pop the top and watch the heater coil when it's running... if it cycles
"off" more than "on" (mine did about 10 seconds on and 50 off during a
minutes, no matter which temp you set it to, then suspect a clogged
exhause (not the little flexible 4" pipe leading from the dryer to the
wall - but the REST of it - the part that goes from the wall behind the
dryer to the outside... mine was clogged almost shut... when I cleaned
it out, problem solved. Now the dryer can get enough airflow that it
doesn't overheat the thermostat quickly (which shuts off the element),.
CJT
2005-08-17 02:40:02 UTC
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Post by Steve Henderson
Post by Appliance Repair Aid
Post by DaveC
This GE dryer (USA 240v model) has 4 heat settings: Hi, Medium, Low, Fluff
(no heat). It also has a moisture-monitoring setting ("More Dry" and "Less
Dry").
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.
The filter screen is clean and the airflow out of the vent hose (I
disconnected it and checked the flow) is unchanged from a year ago (the last
time I remember checking it out). Mains voltage verified. No overheating
external connections.
How is it possible for the dryer to fail in a mode that results in only
medium heat?
Just trying to get a few ideas before opening it up.
GE model DBXR453ET3WW
Thanks,
Hi,
Post by DaveC
I presume the way 3 heat settings are accomplished is through the use of 2
different wattage heater elements. For example, Low = 1000w element; Medium =
1500w element; High = both elements.
Close, 2 of the same wattage elements and usually a couple of different
thermostats.
Post by DaveC
There is now one heat setting: medium. All the settings of the heat switch
result in the same medium heat.
One of the two elements broken, element grounded are a couple of
possible trouble makers.
Some take apart helps....
http://www.applianceaid.com/take-apart.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/ge-dryers.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/grounded.html
jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
pop the top and watch the heater coil when it's running... if it cycles
"off" more than "on" (mine did about 10 seconds on and 50 off during a
minutes, no matter which temp you set it to, then suspect a clogged
exhause (not the little flexible 4" pipe leading from the dryer to the
wall - but the REST of it - the part that goes from the wall behind the
dryer to the outside... mine was clogged almost shut... when I cleaned
it out, problem solved. Now the dryer can get enough airflow that it
doesn't overheat the thermostat quickly (which shuts off the element),.
FWIW, I had the same thing happen with my gas dryer -- I think it's a
common problem, especially with long exhausts.
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DaveC
2005-08-17 18:27:13 UTC
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Post by Steve Henderson
pop the top and watch the heater coil when it's running... if it cycles
"off" more than "on" (mine did about 10 seconds on and 50 off during a
minutes, no matter which temp you set it to, then suspect a clogged
exhause (not the little flexible 4" pipe leading from the dryer to the
wall - but the REST of it - the part that goes from the wall behind the
dryer to the outside... mine was clogged almost shut... when I cleaned
it out, problem solved. Now the dryer can get enough airflow that it
doesn't overheat the thermostat quickly (which shuts off the element),.
When troubleshooting externally (I've not opened it up, yet), I disconnected
the hose and felt the temperature of the air. It was only lukewarm,
unchanged, it seems, whether the hose is connected or not. Airflow is
maximum, I think. This rules out airflow blockage.
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James Sweet
2005-08-18 02:50:19 UTC
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Post by DaveC
Post by Steve Henderson
pop the top and watch the heater coil when it's running... if it cycles
"off" more than "on" (mine did about 10 seconds on and 50 off during a
minutes, no matter which temp you set it to, then suspect a clogged
exhause (not the little flexible 4" pipe leading from the dryer to the
wall - but the REST of it - the part that goes from the wall behind the
dryer to the outside... mine was clogged almost shut... when I cleaned
it out, problem solved. Now the dryer can get enough airflow that it
doesn't overheat the thermostat quickly (which shuts off the element),.
When troubleshooting externally (I've not opened it up, yet), I disconnected
the hose and felt the temperature of the air. It was only lukewarm,
unchanged, it seems, whether the hose is connected or not. Airflow is
maximum, I think. This rules out airflow blockage.
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Did you try the suggestions we already gave you? Are both elements
themselves ok? Are the thermostats closing? Is power getting to them?
j***@yahoo.com
2005-08-18 05:45:56 UTC
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Hang a clothesline, save energy and money, and quit whining.-Jitney
James Sweet
2005-08-18 06:10:57 UTC
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Hang a clothesline, save energy and money, and quit whining.-Jitney
That's not permitted in most neighborhoods these days, I guess it depends on
where you live. Not only that, if I tried it in my area the trees would piss
sap all over the clothes and ruin them before they even got dry.
j***@yahoo.com
2005-08-18 06:27:32 UTC
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That's not permitted in most neighborhoods these days, I guess it
depends on
where you live.(snip)

Amazing how we give up freedom without even noticing, isn't it?

Not only that, if I tried it in my area the trees would piss
sap all over the clothes and ruin them before they even got dry.(snip)

How is it that people managed to dry clothes before automatic dryers
were invented?-Jitney
James Sweet
2005-08-18 06:41:59 UTC
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Post by James Sweet
That's not permitted in most neighborhoods these days, I guess it depends on
where you live.(snip)
Amazing how we give up freedom without even noticing, isn't it?
Not only that, if I tried it in my area the trees would piss
sap all over the clothes and ruin them before they even got dry.(snip)
How is it that people managed to dry clothes before automatic dryers
were invented?-Jitney
Well in the case of families in this area they had several acres of rural
land and a sizeable portion of it was cleared for a back yard and field. Now
days land in this area is far too expensive for that and you're lucky to
have much of a yard at all and some trees for privacy. It's the price to pay
to live in a desireable area with a dense population.

Doesn't matter to anyway, I've never had to pay money for a clothes dryer
and have always been able to keep them running with minimal effort. The cost
of running one is trivial compared to all the other electrical crap in my
house. I was just trying to help the original poster.
j***@yahoo.com
2005-08-18 10:31:10 UTC
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That's fine. I live in the Southwestern U.S. desert, and poeple could
dry their clothes here in 15-20 minutes on the clothesline. Many want
to do so, but are prevented by the blockfhurer facist HOA committes.
This, in the middle of an energy crisis. I thought we fought a war to
defeat fascism. Silly me.-Jitney
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2005-08-18 13:03:58 UTC
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Post by James Sweet
Post by j***@yahoo.com
Hang a clothesline, save energy and money, and quit whining.-Jitney
That's not permitted in most neighborhoods these days, I guess it depends on
where you live. Not only that, if I tried it in my area the trees would piss
sap all over the clothes and ruin them before they even got dry.
How about a nice hoophouse, aka polytunnel? A large 5 cent/ft^2 piece of
4-year greenhouse polyethylene film stretched over $5 double-curved 1x3
bows on 4' centers...

Nick

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